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NOTE Fears of a Free Market

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Fears of a Free Market

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I think most of us are well aware of the fact that we need a marketplace from which we can obtain the goods and services that we want.

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However, as we talk to other people and listen to what they have to say,

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Today, we discover that most people today are very much afraid of the idea that there

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could be a free market operating without some kind of government regulation. As a matter

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of fact, there are movements afoot now, and they have been afoot for many years, to increase

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the number of laws passed by government to intervene in the market and to regulate things

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in terms of making the market safer and better for everybody.

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The general consensus appears to be that we must have government in a position of dominance

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over the market or everyone is going to be cheated, exploited, taken advantage of and

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so on.

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Where do we get this idea?

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Actually, we really don't have a good basis of comparison today, because what people are

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looking at isn't a free market. And they see things happening today that ought not to

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be happening, and they always presume that what is happening that is wrong is the result

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of a lack of government control. And so whenever they find something breaking down, when they

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When they find an instance of criminality or fraud or some other malfunction manifest,

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they almost invariably conclude that the reason for this failure is that the government hasn't

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done enough.

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So actually they are thinking and reasoning from a position where the government has already

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be done of a very great number of things. And we are not thinking in terms of a free

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market. It would be important to understand what a free market really is and to try to

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figure out what the fears are that people have in relation to it.

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Now let me give you what I believe would be a pure concept of a free market. If we had

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a really true free market.

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This would be what has been called a laissez-faire market.

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That's a French expression, laissez-faire, which means in effect, leave it alone, let

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it go, let it go as it will, laissez-faire, leave it alone.

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To have such a market would mean that there would be no government intervention for any

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reason whatever.

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In other words, the government would not help anybody, it would not injure anybody, it would

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not seek to control anybody, it would permit the marketplace to function as it would with

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benefits accruing wherever they accrue, with damage accruing wherever that would accrue.

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It would simply be a free market where anybody could provide any good and service he wanted

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at any price that he wanted, he could make as much or as little as he was capable of

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making and there it would be.

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Well now that idea frightens people. It seems to them to smack of anarchy. It sounds as

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if everything is out of control and that there would always be a few people who would take

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advantage of the situation and we would be at their mercy. Because in general people

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People tend to look at government as their friend and at the businessman as their enemy.

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They look at the businessman as a fellow who's going to make profits from them, and consequently

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they distrust him because they figure, if he can make a profit on me, he's got to be

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taking advantage of me somehow, and I'm afraid of that.

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But then they look at the government as their friend because they recognize that the government

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isn't making a profit, and therefore they feel that the government is really on their

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side in the matter. And so that's the way public opinion tends to drift, and in fact

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it tends to become concretized, it's locked in cement, and that's about the way it goes.

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Now let me take up the basic fears that people have. I hear these expressed all the time

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in various ways, there are certain areas where these fears constantly are brought to the

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surface. I would suppose that probably the basic fear that people have of a free market

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– now I'm not talking about any other type of fear, I'm only talking about the fears

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people have of a free market, that is a market where there would be no government control

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or intervention at all. So they are afraid of this, and the fear tends to appear this

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The first fear is the fear of high prices. I presume that is the number one terror that

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people have considering a marketplace that is unregulated. It is certainly a well-known

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fact—and no businessman has ever denied it—that the reason you go into business

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is to make a profit. That's the idea. And therefore the fear runs this way, that given

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In a market without any government, the businessmen who are seeking profits, and they admit to

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seeking profits, would have no reason not to raise prices.

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And so if you had a free market, the prices would trend upward, upward, upward.

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There would be nothing to hold them down, because in theory, it is well known that profits

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Profits are those sums that accumulate after all the bills have been paid. So you would

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have an ever-widening gap between cost of production and selling price. And that widening

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gap would be the area of expanding profits, and the businessman would be making more and

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more profits. And who could say no to him? You see, what would happen—and this is the

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The fear, you understand, would be that the businessman would simply want to make profits,

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and as he began making them, he'd want to make more, and so what he would tend to do

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would be to just constantly raise his prices, and you and I would be compelled to pay for

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whatever he asked, and there would be nothing to hold him down, and the consequence is we

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couldn't afford to meet these payments, and we would then move into an area of complete

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– lack, we would suffer poverty and deprivation of every sort just so that a few greedy, grasping

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businessmen could maximize their profits and just take advantage of us up and down and

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backwards and forwards.

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This is the general fear. It happens to be really – and I hope you won't resent my

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saying this, but that's an old wives' tale. It just isn't so. That isn't the

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the way the market works, although let me concede at once that there probably isn't

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a businessman but what would like to do it. This is true. The businessman would undoubtedly

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like to make as much profit as he can, and if that meant raising his prices, he probably

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would raise his prices. Well, now just take a moment and look at things and you'll see

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that businessmen, although they might like to raise their prices, all other factors remaining

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Have you ever found this happening?

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Here comes a union leader to a businessman, and he says, I'd like to raise the wages

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of the people here.

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And the businessman, of course, says, gee, I'm glad you got here.

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I've been wanting to raise my prices for a long time, but I couldn't justify it.

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Now with you here, I can justify an increase and we'll both make a lot more.

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So I'm going to put my prices up very high, and that will make it possible for me to grant

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the wage increase that you want, and I'll immediately put my prices way above that,

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and let's do that right away.

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Gee, what took you so long?

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Why weren't you here last week?

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Have you ever found businessmen saying this?

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I don't think so.

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You'll usually find the businessmen squaring off toe-to-toe with the labor boss and saying,

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no, I don't want to raise wages because if I do, I've got to raise prices.

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Well, why doesn't the businessman want to raise a price?

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You see, the fear that we have that businessmen really want to raise prices isn't really

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carried out in fact, although let me concede that they probably do.

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But faced with a free market, they probably wouldn't be able to.

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We're going to get into an examination of that a little further on to see just what

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does happen in a free market.

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I'm only concerned at the moment with focusing on the fears that people have. And certainly

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it is true that most people have a belief, a fear. Actually, it's a superstition. They

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don't really understand how the market works. And they presume that because of the desire

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of businessmen to maximize their profits, that every businessman, without any government

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and Overseer would simply be engaged in raising his prices as high as he could in order to

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maximize his profits.

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Now there are some corollary fears that extend from this. If it is true that businessmen

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would be constantly trying to put higher prices on their goods, it would also follow that

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businessmen would be trying to lower wages. And so in addition to the fear of high prices,

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There is a corresponding fear of low wages. Now that's an interesting thing in itself,

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because in point of fact, if you want to analyze it, a wage is nothing but a price paid for

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the commodity of labor. So why don't people fear that businessmen would also raise wages

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since they believe that businessmen are going to raise all the prices? Why wouldn't the

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businessmen also raise the price of labor? Well, the reason people don't think so is

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is because they view the price of labor as a cost factor in production, but the selling

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price as a profit factor. And so they see the businessman as a being of great power,

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who is able to set prices and set wages. And therefore they are afraid of the businessman

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because they view him as a creature of power who can impose on their lives and reduce the

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the amount of wages that they get if they're a wage earner and increase the amount that

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they have to pay for the goods and services made. They don't trust this man, whom they

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presume to have power, but they do trust the government, which has corresponding power,

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and so they tend to trust the government to get in and hold down the businessman so that

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he can't, one, lower wages or, two, raise prices.

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Now there are still other areas that touch in this same context. One would be the concept

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of excess profits. What is an excess profit? Well, I don't really know. The word excess

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is a general term. It means too much. Well, how much is too much? I don't know. It's

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sort of like some of the ambiguous terms that we use today that tend to be emotive but they

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They don't mean too much, like saying, well, that man is rich and this other man is poor.

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Well, how rich is rich and how poor is poor? I don't know. A rich man is always somebody

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that has more than I have and a poor man is me and everybody else in my situation or in

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a situation that's worse than mine. So poverty always begins with me and riches always begins

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with the other fellow. But what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. I know people

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who look down on me because economically speaking, financially speaking, I can't measure up

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to them at all. I couldn't begin to. So they look down on me. But I know other people look

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up to me because they think I've got a lot. It's a comparative proposition. You are rich

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or poor in terms of other people who are richer or poorer. That's what it means. It means

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We've taken surveys around the country to find out what the opinion of students in high

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School and the University hold in respect to the amount of profits they think businessmen

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are making. And the bulk of the opinion today has it that businessmen are making anywhere

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from 50 to 80 percent profit. Well, actually, that is absolutely ridiculous. A very, very

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Every successful firm today may be making 3 or 4 percent profit.

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Many firms feel delighted if they can make a 1 percent profit.

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There are, of course, very few highly risky endeavors that may make 6 or 7 percent profit.

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But the idea that you're making anywhere from 50 to 80 percent is pure poppycock.

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It just isn't so, yet that's what people think. You see, when a man goes to work, say,

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in a department store, what he sees is the inflow of customer's money and the outflow

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of his wage, and that's about all he sees. He doesn't see the cost of the department

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Store. He doesn't see the overhead. He doesn't see the advertising bills. He doesn't see

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the entire payroll. He doesn't see the insurance cost. He doesn't see the interest rates on

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borrowed money. He doesn't see any of these things. What he sees is an influx of thousands

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of dollars a day from customers who are buying merchandise, and he is getting paid maybe

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Money, $20 a day. So he sees thousands of dollars coming in every day and $20 going

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out to him. And he sort of makes a quick conclusion. You know, the fellow that owns this is pocketing

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the difference. Well, of course, the fellow isn't pocketing any major portion of that

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at all. In fact, on that day he may lose money. It's only in the overall, including the rush

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business at Christmas and in other types of special promotional affairs that enough profit

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will be accrued and that profit has to take care of all of the rest of the operation throughout

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the year, which may simply be so marginal that there's no profit at all most of the

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time. You're doing well if you just meet expenses most of the time. Now, anybody in

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business who knows what I've said or has heard what I've said knows what I'm saying is true.

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But people who are not in business don't understand this. They think that business is a very simple

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process of taking in a lot and spending a very little. It's actually just the reverse.

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Business is the process of spending a great deal and taking in enough so that actually

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you do end up with a little more than you spent. And that's the way it really works.

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But people don't understand that. So they have this idea that there will be surplus

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Plus profits, and of course there really isn't any such thing. The profit that a person could

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make in today's business world wouldn't be surplus no matter what you did. But this

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is one of the reasons people fear a free market. They fear that somehow the businessman is

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just going to make a bundle and he's going to make it at your expense and my expense and

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therefore something has to be done to hold him in check.

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Now there's still another fear in this same area, and that's the fear that if businessmen

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can't take and raise their prices for any reason, if any reason should appear, then

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at least they can lower the quality. And by this process they will cut costs and be able

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to maximize their profits. You see, always they view the businessman as being the arch-villain.

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He is in a central position where he can manipulate all around the periphery of his activities

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and injure everybody in process so that he can take advantage of them all the way around.

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This is one of the fears. Of course, it would be important to examine that to see whether

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or not that is so, and I intend to do that.

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Here is another one of the fears that we have in the market in addition to the fear of high

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and the fear of monopoly. For it is a well-known fact that every businessman wants to be a monopolist.

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And here is what the fear is, that given a free market without any government intervention,

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there would be one or maybe two businessmen who would be very good, very efficient,

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and they would engage in the process of becoming more and more efficient and these people would

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lower their prices. The reason they would lower their prices would be to defeat their competition.

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They would simply operate with an ever-lowering price until they drove all their competition out,

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at which point they would have a monopoly. Now having a monopoly, they would simply raise their

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Without their price to the skies, there would be nothing to hold them back because their

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competition is gone. And without government in there, why, that's what you'd have.

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This is the fear. Without government to intervene in the market, the most efficient men would

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become monopolists. And once they became monopolists, then they would have the ability of imposing

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what could be called a monopoly price. So if you analyze this, you discover that really

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The fear of monopoly isn't a fear of monopoly. It's a fear of a high price. It's the fear of

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a high price sustained through a monopoly practice. And so, again, it's the same fear that people have

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the fear of a high price, this time obtained in a very special way, the special way being a monopoly.

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Now there is another fear that people generally have, and this is the fear of the business cycle.

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There is a well-known belief that the free market itself tends to operate cyclically.

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It has its periods of ups and downs because there is something inevitable about this.

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You have a period of time when market activities accelerate, conditions are good, a lot of

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Money is in circulation. People are buying and spending and working and everything is great.

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And then you have the recession. The market slows down. The flow of money is retarded.

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And everything tends to go downhill. And this is something we don't like. We would like to always

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live in paradise. We would like everything to be on the upside, not the downside.

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and the consequences. We fear this and given a free market, we are led to believe that

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this kind of behavior would eventuate constantly. We would simply be in kind of an economic

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elevator that would rise and fall at the behest of the businessman who is going to take advantage

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of it whether it's going up or down and we are going to be the poor suckers who are caught

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in the middle and we're going to have to pay for it and so we resent that and we're afraid of it

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and this is why people call for the government to come in and intervene.

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So all of these are fears of a free market.

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Now to substantiate the fears of the free market that you hear on every hand,

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there are several historical periods of time or events which are usually brought forward as

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arguments to justify the fears of the market that you've heard expressed. One of these,

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and I haven't heard this talked about too much lately, but at one time this was a very,

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very prevalent one, and of course among people who are studying economics and certainly on

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your campuses today you'll find this argument offered quite a bit, it will be said something

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Okay, you people who believe in a free market, well great, it sounds good. But don't forget

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there was a time when that's what you had. There was a time when government did not intervene

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in the economy. The only reason that government did begin to intervene is because the people

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in the market demonstrated conclusively that they were kind of a shifty lot and you had

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had to have intervention, otherwise everybody would have been exploited.

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Don't forget the Industrial Revolution, for instance.

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Back at the time of the Industrial Revolution, the government hadn't begun yet to intervene.

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And what happened?

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Well, you had a number of these greedy, grasping capitalists, these big industrialists emerge,

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and they finally discovered how to mass produce goods.

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And the results was, of course, that they built sweatshops, they forced men and women

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and even little children to come in these miserable places that they built, because

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they wouldn't lay out the money, you see, to build a decent factory.

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They just brought them into these dark, depressing surroundings.

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Sometimes they were even killed in these factories because the owner of the factories just didn't

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care about them at all.

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He just was only interested in one thing, and that is maximizing his profits.

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You had a decline of human well-being.

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People's health was ruined.

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More people were killed and injured.

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In fact, the whole moral fiber of society began to break down.

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But finally, the government awoke to the danger that existed in the factories and then they

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began to intervene.

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And of course, this is where the modern labor union got started and the union also got in

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and began to intervene and to punish the businessmen and these industrialists that were taking

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advantage of the situation.

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And golly, if it hadn't been for the government and the union intervention, why by now there

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just be a handful of men who had all of industry in their hands and we would all be their victims.

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We would just be a bunch of little puppets being maneuvered and crushed and bled white

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just to satisfy the greed and avarice of these subhuman monsters who are the great industrialists.

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Now you've heard something like that, possibly not with all of the color that I've given it,

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But actually, you know, that's not true. What I've just said is the report. That's the superstition.

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In fact, what we want to do is to take the time to get into that area and examine it historically

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and see what really did happen. Because what we're examining right now relates to the fears alone

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and I'm not trying to explain the truth of the matter. I'm only reciting what the fears are and

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certainly this is one of the fears that people have. That there was a time historically where

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governments didn't intervene and at that time the businessmen behaved like subhuman fiends and simply

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took advantage of the situation and exploited everybody and so you have to have some kind of

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of Intervention. Now that's the popular belief. Now there is another period of history

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that is trotted out to sustain this same type of fear. And this is called the Age of the

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Robber Barons. And what we hear in this case is much the same. It will be said, all right

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you people who believe in a free market, sure, it sounds good. But don't forget there was

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a time in this country where we didn't have much in the way of government intervention.

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Why you have this group of the big moguls, so-called, the giants of industry, commerce

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and finance, who emerge and they form cartels and they seek monopolies and they simply get

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a stranglehold on the economy, just a handful of men really, and they begin to drive all

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their competition into bankruptcy and they take a position of power and influence obtained

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by their dominance of the market but fortunately before they could completely take it over

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the government caught on to what they were doing and we had the Sherman Antitrust Law

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passed in 1890 and other subsequent bits of legislation that helped to hold these big

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moguls in check so now you don't get that thing anymore because the government does

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intervene but if you had a free market without government intervention what would prevent

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the appearance of some more of these giant moguls.

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Why, there's just a whole lot of them waiting in the wings.

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But fortunately, they can't get started because the government is restraining them and holding them back, you see.

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So this is the fear that is expressed in this area, and that is that given a free market,

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you would have these giant people, cruel, rapacious, greedy, with no redeeming human characteristics,

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There is one further historical period that is trotted out and dusted off in order to

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confirm all of our worst suspicions about a free market, and this is of course the so-called

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Great Depression, for it is a well-known fact, quote and unquote, that the Great Depression

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occurred because of the greed and avarice of a limited number of businessmen who simply

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went to work and overproduced. And when they had a lot of stockpiles of goods and services

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that people weren't able to buy at the high prices that they demanded, why then the businessmen

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simply closed their factories and wouldn't produce anymore until they could sell the

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and the surpluses they'd already produced.

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And that meant that thousands of men were thrown out of work just to sustain the high

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prices and the high profits of these greedy industrialists.

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why by now the whole country would be in the hands of a small cartel of greedy, grasping

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monsters, and that would be the situation we face.

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But fortunately, the government saw what was happening, and so did the unions, and they

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They moved in, they intervened, they established public welfare and other benefits to the workers

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who had been thrown out of work and by this process they brought us out of the depression

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and of course that's why you have to have government intervention in the market.

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And what I have now done is just simply recite quickly some of the major fears that people

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have of the marketplace that is of a free market.

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So what I want to do is to consider those areas with some detail and you want to be sure to get in on it because it's a very, very interesting area. Thanks very much.
