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NOTE A Renegade History of the United States

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The Ludwig von Mises Institute presents The Libertarian Tradition, an audio series with Jeff Rigenbach.

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I admit it. I was looking forward to the release of Thaddeus Russell's new book, A Renegade History of the United States.

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After all, Russell came pretty highly recommended by no less an authority than our own Tom Woods,

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Kids, who wrote in a column for LewRockwell.com back in March of last year that Thaddeus

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Russell is a progressive historian who is friendly with libertarians and with whom I

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myself have had some valuable correspondence.

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When Russell's renegade history of the United States came out in late September, Tom provided

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him with a blurb, which now appears both on Russell's website and on the Amazon.com page

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for his book.

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Thaddeus Russell has broken free of the ideological prisons of left and right, Tom wrote, to

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give us a real flesh and blood history of America, filled with untold stories and unlikely

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heroes, no waving incense before the sacred personages of Washington D.C. here.

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This wonderful book follows the best American traditions of iconoclasm, and, what is the

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same thing, truth-telling.

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This is pretty high praise, as I say.

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Russell wondered, then, that I looked forward to getting my hands on a copy of Russell's

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renegade history.

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And when I finally did, I found that by and large it justified Tom Wood's encomium.

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It does seem, for example, that Thaddeus Russell is friendly with libertarians.

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Actually, this much became evident to me even before I had managed to lay my hands on a

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copy of his new book.

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In mid-October, in an article in the Huffington Post, Russell acknowledged that the people

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Russell who had helped him reach the conclusions he expresses in the book were an unlikely

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mix of influences, including the hippies and other cultural radicals I had encountered

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in my early life, black and gay cultures that showed me a way out of the self-imposed limitations

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of being white and straight, and libertarians who caused me to question the commitment to

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freedom among the left that I had been born into.

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Paul also says such kind things about the market that it fairly takes your breath away

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to remember with a start that this is a progressive historian putting these words on the page.

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He writes, for example, that, today, many on the conservative side of the political

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spectrum like to make the founders into champions of a free market economy, while many on the

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left claim that they were simply the tools of the rising merchant class.

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Neither of these sides understands that the market economy has always been a friend of

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renegades and an enemy of moral guardians.

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In Russell's revisionist view of American history, you see, there is an enduring civil

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war between these two factions, the renegades and the moral guardians, whom he also calls

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the disciplinarians.

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But it seems to me that to properly understand what these two factions represent and where

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Two main kinds of people fled Europe to live in North America in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries.

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Individualists, who sought freedom from the political interference they were accustomed

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to dealing with in Europe, and religious zealots, who sought to create and maintain a Puritan

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theocracy on these shores, without interference from the self-same European political authorities

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who were also interfering with the individualists.

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Some colonists wanted a society in which no one could impose his or her creed on anyone

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else.

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Both the individualists and the puritans can legitimately lay claim to an authentic American pedigree for their creeds.

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Individualism and puritanism originated in Europe, true, but they were never welcomed there.

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They were exiled early on, and they caught on in their adopted country as they have never caught on anywhere else in the world.

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America proved remarkably hospitable to both creeds.

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Both creeds have thrived here, and both richly deserve to be called American.

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They are, however, fundamentally incompatible.

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In the sort of society an individualist would create, a society based on free choice,

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the Puritan would have no way to impose his religious and moral views on others.

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In the sort of society a Puritan would create, a society based on duty,

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The individualist would be reigned in, prescribed, proscribed, told what to do and told what not to do at every turn.

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From time to time, the Puritans and the individualists do see eye to eye on a particular political issue,

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abolition of slavery in the years just prior to the U.S. Civil War, for example,

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but by and large, they are political antagonists.

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As the sociologist Herbert J. Gans put it in his 1988 study of middle American individualism,

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individualism is inherently, if selectively, anti-government. In a word, individualists are

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libertarians. They believe in small, severely limited government. Puritans are authoritarians.

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They believe in strong government, government powerful enough to make sure all their fellow

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A third group of individuals left Europe in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries to take

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up residence in North America, but these colonists were not fleeing anything or anyone.

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They had no reason to do so.

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They were neither individualists nor Puritans.

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Nor did they harbor any other fringe ideas that would make them unpopular in the home

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country.

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They were in the European mainstream.

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They sought first to establish a beachhead on this new continent on behalf of European

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civilization, and then to keep it that way.

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Keep it European, that is.

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They had little or no interest in American ideas, American traditions, a distinctively

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American culture.

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They thought of themselves as Englishmen, not Americans.

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Their descendants today, not their literal descendants necessarily, but those who continue

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their Eurocentric way of thinking, call themselves Americans, but they give away their true orientation

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when discussing particular cultural and political issues.

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What to do about health care or global warming?

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What other industrial democracies, code for Germany, France, England, Sweden, etc. do

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about these things?

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should be our guide. Interested in reading some fiction, seeing a movie, listening to

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some music, discussing some ideas? The only fiction worth reading, the only films worth

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seeing, the only music worth listening to, the only ideas worth discussing, are all from

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European writers, directors, composers, etc. Except, of course, for the almost equally

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worthy contributions of homegrown imitators of European styles and European schools of

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of Thought.

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The Eurocentrics have no use for either individualism or Puritanism.

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As has been noted, these are American ideas, not European ones.

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In Europe, they never won the support of more than a despised minority.

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But the Eurocentrics tend overall to side politically with the Puritans.

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After all, a large, powerful government, a government large enough and powerful enough

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American culture as we know it today is an amalgam of these three influences.

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Or so at least, it seems, from where I sit.

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American culture as Thaddeus Russell sees it is a little bit different.

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He leaves the Eurocentrics out of the picture entirely and focuses on the long struggle

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He is particularly interested in those among the individualists who are mostly or completely

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non-ideological, the individualists whose individualism is not based in their commitment

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to any particular ideas or principles, but is based instead in their self-serving behavior.

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Particularly interesting in this regard is Russell's chapter on slavery.

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It is centered around his report that a majority of the 2300 ex-slaves who offered an evaluation

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of slavery to interviewers from the Federal Writers Project in the mid-1930s, field hands

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and house slaves, men and women, had a positive view of the institution, and many unabashedly

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wished to return to their slave days.

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As Russell sees it, the ex-slaves looked back on their days as chattels so nostalgically

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because they felt they had greater freedom as slaves than they later enjoyed after slavery

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had been abolished.

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He quotes the testimony of one former slave who told a Federal Writers Project interviewer

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in 1937 that he had worked harder since the abolition of slavery than he had ever worked

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on the plantation, and that on the plantation he knew that Master would take care of him

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and provide him with food and warm clothing and warm housing in the winter months, even

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if, along with all or most of the other slaves, he shirked his work and played sick and devoted

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whatever resources he did have to pleasure, chiefly gambling, liquor and whores.

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As Russell himself puts it, many and possibly most of the ex-slaves did not restrain their

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It is, generally speaking, a good thing, Russell asserts, that this uniquely liberated culture

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began spreading from the descendants of the former slaves to white-blue-collar workers

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in the 1960s, so that absenteeism, workplace sabotage, insubordination toward managers

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and union stewards, and other forms of industrial disobedience became steadily more common in

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American industry during those years. Russell also writes approvingly of the workers at

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the General Motors plant in Lordstown, Ohio, who in 1972 staged a walkout in rebellion

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against their employer and their union, the United Auto Workers.

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These strikers spoke publicly about committing acts of sabotage on the assembly line, spontaneous

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slowdowns and shutdowns, showing up late to work or not at all, general goofing off, and

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f***ing up any time I can.

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Well as Steve Martin used to say, excuse me, but I don't consider unilateral violations

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in terms of contractual obligations you voluntarily agreed to earlier as expressions of individualism.

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I don't think of endangering the lives of unwitting and innocent consumers because I

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don't like my job as acceptable, much less conscionable.

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On the other hand, I remember the furor over Walter Block's now classic libertarian work,

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Defending the Undefendable, when it first came out back in the 1970s.

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More than a few libertarians back then said, in effect, well, of course Walter is correct

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that these people aren't violating anybody's rights and they shouldn't be scapegoated,

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but that doesn't really make them heroes, does it?

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The litterer as hero?

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Give me a break.

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I remember thinking at the time, what I still think now more than 30 years later, that Walter's

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book was written with a light touch, with a consistently light tone.

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was illustrated by humorous drawings contributed by a political cartoonist of the time.

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The reader was frankly invited to consider Walter's references to people like literars

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and pimps as heroes, as open and unapologetic exercises in hyperbole, the deliberate use

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of exaggeration, even exaggeration to the point of absurdity, to emphasize an idea,

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a point, an argument.

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You know all along that Walter is only half serious in calling these people heroes.

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With Thaddeus Russell, you know no such thing.

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For all you know, this guy is perfectly serious in using terms like individualism and freedom

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to describe the life of sponges who are supported by someone else, and who deliberately render

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the very least and most slipshod service they can possibly get away with in return for that

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support.

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On the other hand, there is far more to Thaddeus Russell's new book than just this.

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He makes a good case that most, at times perhaps all, of the founders were disciplinarians,

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looking for ways to regulate and control the lives of ordinary people in the new republic,

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lest they devote their time and money to things like wine, women, song and gambling, things

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of which the founders did not approve.

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He provides what may be the best short summary of the major ideas and events of the American

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Revolution that I've ever seen, six pages packed with relevant, eye-opening information.

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He also includes a remarkable chapter on the New Deal as the American version of fascism,

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in which he writes that,

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The Second World War appeared to many contemporary observers, and still appears to many historians,

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as proof of a fundamental antagonism between fascism and the American way of life.

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Many have seen the war as evidence that, in particular, the New Deal liberal way of life

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was hostile to fascism.

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After all, while many Republicans and other enemies of the New Deal were opposed to fighting

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fascism abroad, Roosevelt led the nation to war against Germany, Italy and Japan.

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More than 400,000 Americans died in the fight, and the Roosevelt administration made sure

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to not just defeat the fascist regimes, but to obliterate them.

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But the evidence of their similarities suggests that the New Deal and fascism went to war

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not over ideas or values or a way of life.

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Rather, it seems, the war was a struggle between brothers for control of the world family.

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And there's Russell's excellent chapter on the widespread lack of support for American

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involvement in World War II by those who were expected to do the fighting.

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And there's his series of informative chapters on American minority groups, the Irish, the

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Jews, the Italians, and the ways each of these groups gradually advanced from having a reputation

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as little better than sub-human to being accepted as fully human, white Americans.

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It had a lot to do, as I'm sure you've guessed by now, with convincing the public that group

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members had given up their hedonism and libertinism and fallen into line behind the Puritan leadership.

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Now don't get me wrong here.

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I have no use for Puritans.

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I agree with H. L. Mencken that Puritans are people bedeviled by the haunting fear that

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someone somewhere might be happy.

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But I also agree with Gustave Flaubert, that great hater of the puritanical bourgeoisie,

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the man who said, what a horrible invention, the bourgeois, don't you think?

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Flaubert considered it axiomatic that hatred of the bourgeois is the beginning of wisdom.

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He believed that the whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the level of

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bourgeois stupidity.

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But he also counseled a young bohemian of his acquaintance to be regular and orderly

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in your life, like a bourgeois, so that you may be violent and original in your work.

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Flaubert knew in the 1870s that what Thaddeus Russell calls the renegade subculture was

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inimical to the long-term success of those who practiced it.

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Thomas Sowell, in his valuable essay Black Rednecks and White Liberals, published just

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six years ago, calls it a counterproductive, dangerous and self-destructive subculture.

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Even Thaddeus Russell acknowledges that were the heroes of this book to take control of

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society, it would be a living hell.

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No one would be safe on the streets, chaos would reign, and garbage would never be collected.

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The argument here is not that bad people should replace the disciplinarians, but that in American

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history the struggles between the two have determined the breadth of personal liberty.

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I make no claims for other parts of the world, where at times renegades have overwhelmed

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the guardians of order, but in this country, the more bad people existed, resisted and

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won, the more freedom was expanded.

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Thaddeus Russell's new book is A Renegade History of the United States.

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I recommend it highly.

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This is Jeff Rigenbach.
